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Total speculation of course ... Chan really wants to want Newton. He loves his skill set, has used it before. But he's conflicted because he sees the huge red flags, mainly with Newton's football IQ (not wonderlic) and on-field processing ability. So he's trying to give him every chance to give some sign that he won't be a dunce in the NFL. Trying really hard to hold out hope. If he has to try this hard, it likely ain't there.
Total speculation of course ... Chan really wants to want Newton. He loves his skill set, has used it before. But he's conflicted because he sees the huge red flags, mainly with Newton's football IQ (not wonderlic) and on-field processing ability. So he's trying to give him every chance to give some sign that he won't be a dunce in the NFL. Trying really hard to hold out hope. If he has to try this hard, it likely ain't there.
You're speculating on this because Gailey is doing his homework on a potential draft pick? Come on. I LOVE this visit. It's really a big deal and people should try their best to understand the ramifications of it. Let me lay them out as I see them.
1) Cam Newton's tangible assets- namely size, speed, quickness, arm strength, playmaking ability are off the charts good. Every GM in the league knows this. Everyone on this board that has literally a single clue about football and has seen Cam Newton play more than one game knows this. It simply is not debatable.
2) The fact that he has limited experience and has things to work on in his game are not in and of themselves issues for a team that won't need him to start right away which we would not. Perfecting his drops, his footwork, his release are all coachable things and Gailey is experienced in this area.
3) Newton also possesses two crucial intangible assets- leadership and confidence. Auburn has been an also ran in the SEC for a number of years. They would have been an also ran again last year. Cam Newton carried that team on his back. The Tigers believed in him. Don't underestimate that quality for a QB. Think about Losman and Edwards for a second- was anyone runing through walls for them? Don't think so.
4) The key issue that the red flags about his cheating incidents, the stolen laptop, his dad pimping him out brought up was two fold: does he have the character and work ethic to do the major amount of work he's going to need to do to be an elite player at the next level? And does he have the brains to make the quick reads and decisions an NFL QB needs to make? Step 1 was the wonderlic. He passed that ok. 21 is an acceptable score. Love to have a # in the 30"s but it's ok. The rest is all about doing your homework. I mean flat out investigating the man. Check out the incidents at FL. Talk to his coaches, teammates, talk to everyone. And then interview the hell out of Newton himself. If there are doubts, you pass on him. But if not, YOU TAKE HIM AND CELEBRATE IF HE'S THERE!
5) The folks that don't agree with #4 have to think this through on one more level. If the Bills have really done their homework and taken Newton and you're still not on board, you have to give up here and now. Because that means we're truly screwed. Nix and Gailey are then idiots. They will both fail and the team will continue to wallow in the mire for many more years. So in the interest of enjoying the team I urge all the Newton haters to get a grip. THE BILLS ARE DOING THEIR HOMEWORK. IF NEWTON IS THE GUY, SUPPORT THE PICK. IN FACT, CELEBRATE IT. And if they pass on him, celebrate that for the same reason. End of rant.
If we do draft Newton, it's because he overly impressed Chan on the white board during their meeting.
ding ding ding
And that dear Bills fans is how it should be. I used to be a sales manager. Part of my job was interviewing potential new hires. Now salesman don't need to be nuclear scientists but they do need to be smart enough to grasp concepts and be quick on their feet mentally. I'm telling you in 45 minutes I damn sure could tell if I had a live one or a bull****ter. And I didn't have a huge budget to do investigating of candidates. We're not trying to split the atom here. Nix/Gailey should be able to figure out if Newton has the goods. Really.
i really hope this encourages someone (cough AZ cough) to trade up with Denver to take Newton and lets Darius fall to us.
Wishful thinking maybe... but the Cards need a QB desperately, if they want any chance to resign Larry Fitzgerald in a year... or hell... win more then 5 games playing in the worst division in football.
Why is Newton good enough for AZ to keep Fitzgerald but not good for us?
I do respect your opinion Ing, always have, but I think I have seen enough from Newton or Gabbert to think getting one of them is the way to go.
I would surely be happy with Darues too.
Not a huge fan of Miller due to his small stature. What are your thoughts on him?
I don't think either QB is "the way to go"; Gabbert is a slightly more durable and bigger version of Trent Edwards, and Newton raises every red flag i've got.
Last i saw Von Miller was 6'3" and 246; that's not too small; that's good size for an OLB in a 34... are there different measurement on him?
I really like his run/pass recognition, he doesn't' have an amazing first step, but he has a strong inside move in his pass rush technique (i like his inside move more then his outside, which is a good thing as speed rushers with just a solid outside rush don't go far in the nfl).
He looks good at the point of attack against the run... if there is one part of his game i don't like it's his tackling technique is a bit sloppy; he tends to go for the shoulder pads, or ankles. and doesn't wrap up well..
I guess from what i saw on the net, he really blew people away at the combine with his 40 time. Hes not dominating, he's more of a pass rushing guy, and he'll vanish for stretches in the game... but he's probably the best front 7 guy in the draft after Darius. He doesn't look like a 4.4 player on the field, but he does have very good playing speed, mixed with his good football IQ (play recognition) and the fact he actually played in a 34 in college and i think he's probably the best option we have with Darius off the board.
I don't think either QB is "the way to go"; Gabbert is a slightly more durable and bigger version of Trent Edwards, and Newton raises every red flag i've got.
Last i saw Von Miller was 6'3" and 246; that's not too small; that's good size for an OLB in a 34... are there different measurement on him?
I really like his run/pass recognition, he doesn't' have an amazing first step, but he has a strong inside move in his pass rush technique (i like his inside move more then his outside, which is a good thing as speed rushers with just a solid outside rush don't go far in the nfl).
He looks good at the point of attack against the run... if there is one part of his game i don't like it's his tackling technique is a bit sloppy; he tends to go for the shoulder pads, or ankles. and doesn't wrap up well..
I guess from what i saw on the net, he really blew people away at the combine with his 40 time. Hes not dominating, he's more of a pass rushing guy, and he'll vanish for stretches in the game... but he's probably the best front 7 guy in the draft after Darius. He doesn't look like a 4.4 player on the field, but he does have very good playing speed, mixed with his good football IQ (play recognition) and the fact he actually played in a 34 in college and i think he's probably the best option we have with Darius off the board.
A&M didn't run a traditional 3-4 set, they're was some kind of a very weird hybrid system that allowed Miller to roam pre-snap. That concerns me greatly with Miller.
COMING SOON...
Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!
A&M didn't run a traditional 3-4 set, they're was some kind of a very weird hybrid system that allowed Miller to roam pre-snap. That concerns me greatly with Miller.
A&M didn't run a traditional 3-4 set, they're was some kind of a very weird hybrid system that allowed Miller to roam pre-snap. That concerns me greatly with Miller.
he's standing up, near the line, and rushing or pass defending every down. that's good enough for me. It's not like he's some sort of tweener DE looking to learn how to pass cover, or rush from positions other then the end, having never done it in college.
i think buffalo wants to take cameron jordan and then take a olb like acho, houston or reed in rd 2... jmo, acho has great run stop ability and bull rush off the edge...
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